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a much needed stamp. by HavokPanda a much needed stamp. by HavokPanda
This needed to be said.
I support the difference between a woman being SEXY vs. SLUTTY

I admit, and I'm even proud to say, that I'm a confident, sexy woman, and I have embraced the slight perverted side of me.
Even though I'm only eighteen, I dream of being a pin-up model or something of the like, even just as a hobby someday. I love drawing sexy girls and I love looking at them.
But, there are many girls that give those women a bad reputation.

So many people complain about porn on DA, that it's hard to not feel bad about posing nude or drawing a suggestive picture. This is how I thought of the Sexy vs. Slutty debate.

Sexy women pose in pin-up and fetish pictures for artwork and fun. Some do it as a job, some as a hobby. They have photos that showcase something, whether it be just their bodies and a beautiful expression or hairstyle, or perhaps a costume or prop.
Slutty women are the ones that take pictures with their digital camera in poor lighting, snapping shots of just their girly parts or what-have-you. They're the "camwhores" that pollute this site. These are the women that promote the idea of porn on DA, whether it be intentional or not.
Sexy women are confident, and that shows in their photos. No matter of their skin, size or hair, they feel beautiful, look beautiful, and are expressed artistically though a photographer's lens.
Slutty women are most likely just looking for attention. They might be doing something to please a certain person, or maybe it's just for pageviews. Either way, it's not about art and confidence.

I think sexy, strong women who have enough self esteem to pose in fetish pictures should be praised, not lumped in with the others.

(oh and just so you know, this speech is coming from a lady who supports sexuality and erotica very much, who also believes in following this site's rules. ;D)

Thank you.
I'll get off my soapbox now. :meow:

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LordRabbid Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Thank you for this
IllusionsMadeReal Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2017  New Deviant
Both need to be de-stigmatized because as long as even one of them can be used as a bludgeon, things aren't going to change.
ComixThreeSevens Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Those "Sexy" women aren't proud and confident at all. They are sluts, it's as simple as that.
OhHiVee Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Hooray for internalized female misogyny.
ImdaBatman Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Damn right
Phoenix-Fightmaster Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist
I support the right for women to be sexy, slutty, both, neither, or whatever else they want to be because they're human beings who can do whatever the fuck they want with their bodies, without regard for who does and does not like their stuff.
jarleynygmobblepot Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2014  Professional Writer
silent-scenes Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I support not shaming people over arbitrary definitions of things like physical attractiveness and sexual identity.
But hey, if objectifying other people makes you feel better, maybe you need the little self esteem boost.
Retro-Red Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You beat me to it.
SpinozillaRex Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2013
Beauty: showing your true self OR dressing nice a elegent (more to it of coarse)
Slutty: ganing attention by showing more skin, even at a place where there isn't any boys...? A.K.A my school...
i agree with this stamp, i shall fav
Motion-Music Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
oh, thank you for implying that a woman needs to show off her body to be confident.
FunnelVortex Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I call slutty stuff 'boner killers'

Because its true...
SteamHead1880 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
How poetic!
Chibifangirl01 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
There is an monthly article in Cosmo US magazine, called Sexy versus Skanky and I find it very helpful in fanart and in real life as well. :)
LunarSpawnSerenata Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012
*phew* And I thought I was alone. thank you. Must fave or something... but I gotta keep it a secret.
HouseOfFlies Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2012  Student Filmographer
I agree with you but I also feel like some of the women who are "camwhoring" as you say just don't know what they're doing or why they're doing it which I cannot really look down upon. People do dumb things just to feel liked, loved, or wanted and even I'm guilty of that so I can see where that kind of person would be coming from. And even "slutty" women I can't really look down upon because who am I to say she's having too much sex, but it's true that that stuff does not belong on an art website. There's a difference between porn and art, but the line between the two seems to be getting thinner and thinner and more and more people start to have sort of a sexual liberation.
OverLapingLeafs Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think the thing that amuses me the most is the only people who seem to refuse to accept the difference are either men or women who are prudes.

Not tryin' to pull the sexism card here, but seriously. Some men make me ashamed to be apart of the same sex as them. At-least women have an excuse for it.
Sevour Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist
I agree with you (;
KiwiCocktail Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Agreed! :)
Raenafyn Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
LadyAlexiaLastHope Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I got into an argument about this. I said some stupid comments and man they were stupid.

I have to agree with you on this. There is nothing wrong dressing sexy or feeling confident. Now if their doing it for attention or to please someone I believe that's a different story.
FlamingHeadcase Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There's a difference between being tasteful and just flat raunchy.
NaokoElric2250 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
For me, a woman who is covered up is more appealing then a scantly-dressed/naked woman, as wearing so little leaves nothing to the imagination.
NaokoElric2250 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
To me, ‘sexy’ is slutty. A woman who dresses in a ‘sexy’ way is look for sexual attraction, for people to be aroused by the site of her - a slut.

I am sorry if you find it annoying that I see no difference.

For me. a woman posting pictures of herself naked, in underwear, or revealing clothing when the picture can work just as well with more clothing, is a slut. Those kinds of pictures are not ‘art’. They are pornography. I do not see shame in the naked form, as it is natural, but ‘showing it off’ to complete strangers on the internet is one of the ways I would define a slut.

I think that glamour models, and the like, who are willing to pose topless for strangers, are not sexy. They are just looking for attention and have no sense of privacy or dignity.

I just recently turned eighteen, and I would not dream of doing such things, even though my few female friends (most of my friends are male as I tend to get on with males better) have said I have a good body shape. I do not see it, though.

I could put my opinion down to the fact that I have never been interested in sex, or being sexually attractive, and never have been sexually attracted to anyone, but I do not know for sure. I do know that girls and women who put the kinds of pictures I have mentioned set a bad example, and portray Morden-Day women in a negative light.

I hate pepole who say things along the lines of "If you have it, flaunt it", as that is foolish.

Even the one fetish I could have is tasteful - I love seeing women in trouser suits with shirts and ties, business-like. And I love women in waistcoats (I own a few myself). Is that strange?
ColacatintheHat Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's your body and you be proud of it!
DEZBOSS Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2011
I don't see the difference.
TheCluelessEinstein Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
so freakin true it isnt even funny
SleeplessImaginarium Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2011
I would agree with this stamp more if it wasn't so misogynistic. I hate the porn shots too but why are you singling out the women only? There are plenty of gratuitous porn shots from the male users too.
samsmash44 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2010
I very much agree with you on the stamp, its very true :aww:
Its-An-Inferno Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2010  Student General Artist
I've made reference to you and your stamp here:

HavokPanda Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
Ah, thank you for letting me know! I'll go check it out~
FirelordPie Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2010
Pardon, this is slightly off-topic, but I wouldn't say "dirty parts". After all, every creature is born entirely pure. Acts can be dirty, but not the body parts.
HavokPanda Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2010
Oh, I understand that. I was just using the term since it's commonly said. Perhaps "private parts" or something like that would have been better. :confused:
FirelordPie Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2010
I think that is a better term. Thanks for changing it.
And I completely agree with the message of the stamp. There's art to everything, including nudity, consequently, there's a way to screw it up.
HavokPanda Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2010
No problem. In fact, thank you for bringing up that point. Honestly, it was just one of the various terms I use for those areas on a daily basis, haha. Didn't realize it could be taken in the wrong way.
Yeah, sadly, that's the way of art. :\
HaveYouGotItInYou Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2010
I completely agree. Awesome stamp and speech. You know what you're talking about! :clap:
MissterAndy Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh wow I absolutely agree! I never thought of deviant art's dilemma from this point of view though. This is an awesome stamp and debating point, even if it's over a year old now I want to it off everywhere. XD I'm not going to lie, I like 'dirt' just as much as I like glamor (so perhaps it's hypocritical of me to say) but I can't stand 'trash'. There are so many talented models and artists here who get verbally abused and undermined by people who saw only a tiny fraction of what truly makes nude or fetish photography artwork but saw galleries worth of crap. It doesn't stop their though the drawings are just as bad, if not worse.

Imho, you should get on your soapbox some more!
TornxDragon Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2010
Agreed, there's a difference between art and being slutty. ^^
Sorry if you are a girls just taking pictures with your own camera of your vagina, just to get attention and a guy to have sex with you. You are slutty.
If you are a confident women, posing a for a photographer, and posing for the art and the beauty you are sexy. ^^ So many decent when get the title slut even though they aren't. ^^
MasqueDeLoup Featured By Owner May 27, 2010
I tip my hat to the content in the artist comments; those are very sensible and mature words. Love the stamp, and I love your soapbox speech. :3
HavokPanda Featured By Owner May 30, 2010
Aw, thank you very much. I'm so happy you liked it. :D
princedirk Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The dictionary was the first supporter of anything of this sort. You know, involving words.
HavokPanda Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2010
Aye. :3

Sadly, people are still stupid.
icandealwithfate Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2010
It's chicks like you who give the rest of us a good name - kick ass!
HavokPanda Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2010
Thanks! :highfive: Haha, your comment made my day. ^__^
Sky-of-Dust Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2010  Student Filmographer
I totally agree! ;)
HavokPanda Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2010
:thumbsup: :)
Shotgun-Opera426 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2009
I completely agree with you! Some of these pictures are just like myspace pictures that were too trampy and got banned, so they put them on here.

I also hate the stigma associated with nude models. I would do it and I'm old enough, but I want to be a teacher, and if anyone found those pictures I would be fired and I'd never get a job. It's stupid really. It's not like starring in a porno.

Sexy is fun, cute, natural, and empowering. Slutty is objectified, gross, and sick.
HavokPanda Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2010
Yeah! I hate how said myspace camwhores try to get off with calling it "artistic nude" or "pin-up", too. Like, how can that be artwork if no time was put into it? I know snapshots can be artwork, and sure, maybe some people just don't have the money to buy nice cameras to take modeling pictures with... but when you take a quick photo of yourself naked with you camera phone... where is your passion?

Very, very true. It's sad, really. I know it's not good to show sex and such to children, of course, but totally shielding kids is wrong, too. So what if a teacher posed in some nude photos? It was for ARTWORK, nothing else. Everyone has a human body, I mean, the body is a work of art in itself. Why is everyone so afraid of it?

I agree 100%!
Shotgun-Opera426 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2010
Exactly. Those kind of people just are looking for compliments or think they are nude models or whatever. I don't understand it at all. It's NOT artwork in the least.
HavokPanda Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2010
Yes. Ah, it's so nice to see a lot of people support this stamp and agree with what we're talking about. ^_^
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